REPORTER: In your works you distinguish between religious Zionism and atheist Zionism.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, that is correct.
REPORTER: You say there are atheist Zionists in Israel, non-religious Jews, but the regime, the majority of politicians in Israel, encourages an essentially harsh, exaggerated religious character. In other words they operate under a mask of Judaism, individuals in the Israeli Cabinet, ministers and senior officials. Is there a contradiction here?
ADNAN OKTAR: Sanhedrin Rabbis are my beloved friends and brothers, they are people that I love. They came to visit me and stayed in my home, the Rabbis of Sanhedrin. I spoke with these people and they are not comfortable in Israel. They regard the way that Muslims want to protect them very exciting and they are waiting for that in rejoice. Because living a devout life is the greatest blessing for a Christian, for a Jew.
REPORTER: Rabbis in America sometimes announce that they share the views of President Ahmadinejad. In other words, under the Zionist regime they are forced into a second-class position.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, the atheist Zionist regime is desolating the entire people of Israel and is oppressing them everywhere in the world. They want to live a devout and happy life. Insha’Allah, once the Turkish-Islamic Union is founded, they will be able to go to the synagogues and praise Allah at the top of their voices, sing lovely hymns and worship freely and they will be able to do their business freely. The Turkish-Islamic Union will represent complete salvation for them insha’Allah.
REPORTER: Do you generally regard atheist Zionists as a threat or not?
ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. Atheist Zionists are people who collaborate with the Freemasons. There is no distinction between atheist Zionists and Masons. They both share one single deity; satan. But when one refers to satan, people imagine that they engage in vice, and thus they resemble to the satan, they think that this is what we mean by it. These people take someone, someone whom they think according to their minds, to possess metaphysical features, people whom they think to be a medium and put him into a hypnotic, trance state and thus they make him get in contact with the satan in hypnosis. And they implement every single thing that satan tells them to do, in the whole world. For instance, satan tells them if blood is to be shed somewhere or if there is to be a war, and they implement what he says, word for word. There are millions of Masons in America and millions in Britain and France. Freemasonry is very strong in Israel, and these are all atheists, all atheist Zionists. They appear to be speaking in the name of Allah and to act in the name of peace and brotherhood, but this is a characteristic of the Dajjal (AntiChrist) described in the Bible. He speaks of Allah and of brotherhood, but in fact knows no Allah or Holy Book, and is tyrannical and a spiller of blood. We can see all these things in Freemasonry, too. They speak of Allah, peace and religion, but in their lodges they deny Allah, religion, faith, Holy Scripture and everything. They also engage in all kinds of activities in order to prevent Allah’s deen being taught in schools. They have also caused the slaughter of 250 million people across the world. Look, the Masons shed the blood of 250 million people in World War I and World War II and subsequently and they thus fed the satan. Hazrat Mahdi (as) will make the final reckoning with the satan and the army of satan. And that will be a historical reckoning. Satan will be defeated for the first time.
REPORTER: I see.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
REPORTER: You say that the atheist Zionists are in power in Israel are unjust and have been given guerrilla education. This is how people think in many places in the Islamic world, they also think like that in the Islamic Republic of Iran.
ADNAN OKTAR: Yes.
REPORTER: Now the Iranian leadership has proposed that following the disappearance of Israel, a referendum should be held among the Jews, Christians and Muslims living there and that people living in the region, not immigrants, should be appointed to the government. In other words, the Zionists can go back where they came from, to Europe or America or wherever. In other words, let the local Jews, Christians and Muslims set up their own administrations and then the whole region can be at peace. What do you think of that?
ADNAN OKTAR: Hazrat Mahdi (as) will do that. Nobody but Hazrat Mahdi (as) can do it. Muslims, Christians and Jews there will enjoy a golden age in the time of Hazrat Mahdi (as). Jerusalem will turn into an full center of worship. The palace of the Prophet Solomon (as) will be rebuilt as it was in its origin, in the time of the Mahdi (as). It will be rebuilt in its perfect state and the whole area will turn into a place of happiness, rejoicing, it will be like a festival ground. Of course the atheist Zionists will then either pack their bags and leave or will have to behave themselves. Well, they may stay in that area, we would not object to it but they will have to behave. The administration will pass in its entirety into the hands of people who believe in Allah, of people who defend compassion, affection, love, friendship, endearment and justice, of people who defend everything that is beautiful. Consequently, our Jewish brothers there will enjoy the age of the Messiah. The Messiah awaited by Israel, the Messiah referred to in the Torah is the Mahdi.
REPORTER: The same?
ADNAN OKTAR: The very same. He is the Hazrat Mahdi (as). When we look at their descriptions we see they are almost exactly the same as Hazrat Mahdi (as). This will be a huge salvation for them as well.